TECHNICAL COMMITTEE MEETING—August 29, 2005

Age Group Committee Recomendations to Technical Committee on August 28, 2005

 

NOTE:  The report was ACCEPTED by the Board at its meeting on September 6, 2005 with the exception of the two sections labeled TABLED.   All accepted  items will be effective immediately except the section titled “Invitational Meets” which will be effective as of Long Course, 2006. 

 

The Technical Committee met on August 29, 2006 at the home of Dan Warner.  The meeting was called to order at 5:30 pm.  Attending were:  Chair, Dan Warner,  Priscilla Davis, Pam Warner, Matt Craven, Bob Gauvin, Mariella Allard, and guest, Mary Riddell.

 

TABLED ITEMS FROM APRIL 3, 2005 TECHNICAL COMMITTEE MEETING:

 

The committee reviewed items from the April 3, 2005 meeting that were tabled at the New England Swimming Board meeting on April 12, 2005.

 

1. Conformity to the Calendar:  The April 3 report read:  “Committee members acknowledged that there is still discussion in the New England Swimming Community concerning the scheduling of the Open Meet, Senior Championships, 13 and over Age Groups.  The committee agreed that they would prefer a 13 and over Age Group Championship and a Senior Championship during short course with an Open Championship during long course.  However, the committee would like to hear from the Age Group Committee and the Senior Committee on this subject.  It was recommended that both committees have meetings following the Coaches Meeting at the Annual Meeting.  Mary Riddell will check to see if space is available at that time.”

 

The short course calendar for 2005—2006 includes a 13 and over Age Group Championship and a Senior Championship and it is anticipated that the long course calendar will include an Open Championship.  As recommended by the Senior Committee, the Senior Championship is scheduled for December rather than during the traditional “championship season.”  Matt Craven reported that coaches have reported that they do not like this date. If the calendar was too full in March, partly due to the Sectional Meet which is being held in New England, some would have preferred a date in January or February.  The Technical Committee recommends that the Senior Committee meet in person rather than via phone so that they can discuss scheduling and other issues face to face.  The Technical Committee recommended that Matt Craven have this as an agenda item at the next coaches meeting (possibly at Seniors in December). 

 

2. Eight and under “Fun Meet”:  The April 3 report read:  “There was discussion of the 8 and under “fun” meet which was held last summer and will be held this summer as part of a team specialty meet.  The two aspects discussed were if there were a need for this meet and if so, when was the best time for it.  A suggestion was made to have it part of the age group qualifier.  The subject was referred to the Age Group Committee for more discussion and a recommendation.”        

 

The meet this summer was held as a separate session during a team specialty meet at GMSC.  The format seemed to work and attendance was good.  Other options would be the same type of format (separate sessions) at the age group qualifier, although that might be too early in the season; a stand alone meet, which might be financially impractical; or a meet during short course, which  would leave 8 and unders with no meet during long course.  Laura Matuszak said that the Age Group Committee would address this issue again.

 

3. Invitational Meets:   The April 3 report read:  “The problem of Invitational Meets was discussed.  The committee recommends that teams that run invitational meets (which are not on the calendar) be required to pay the $.50 per individual swim surcharge on all kinds of meets, including trials and finals meets and distance meets, and all events, including distance events.  It was noted that New England Swimming already has a policy that teams that run invitational meets are not allowed to include a “Swimmer Participation Fee” as part of their fee structure.  In addition, teams running Invitational Meets would have to receive permission from all other teams running calendar meets on their proposed date.  If this is not received, the final decision will rest with the Calendar Committee.”                                                                                                                            

 

Bob Gauvin reported that several meets that had been “invitationals” this past year will be on the calendar for 2005—2006.  He suggested that not allowing the swimmer participation fee for invitationals has made them less attractive.  There was discussion concerning the permission that teams running invitationals have to receive from teams running calendar meets.  Mary Riddell said that late bidders have to receive permission and she thinks that teams running invitationals ought to also.  She does not want to make the decision by herself as to whether to sanction a meet or not. The committee recommends that the original recommendation be submitted to the board with the addition (printed in bold) that the board made at the April meeting.  This policy will be in effect as of Long Course 2006.

 

4. Lottery Process:   The April 3 report read:  “Working or Not?  The committee agreed that there has been some unhappiness with the lottery process.  There are several common complaints.  Teams that are running meets would like to be able to guarantee admission to their meet to an out of district team.  (Currently if a meet is over subscribed, the out of district team is cut first, before the lottery.)  Teams also would like to give preference to teams that regularly support their meets.  Some teams would like to guarantee a certain level of quality swimmers in their meets.  Also, there are concerns about the lotteries that are not being run through the office.”

 

The April 3 report further read:   “Possible Changes:  A suggestion was made that addresses some of these concerns while still maintaining admission to all meets to at least some New England teams.  The committee recommends the following policy which would be effective as of short course 2005—2006.  A team running a meet would set a number of swims that the team could accommodate in the meet, for example, 4,000 swims.  The team could then reserve up to 75% of those swims for their own team and any other teams (New England and/or out of district) that they want to invite to the meet.  The other 25% of the swims would be open to other teams as they are currently.  If on the first day of acceptance, those meet entries exceeded the 25% still available in the meet, there would be a lottery of those teams.  The lottery would be run by the New England Office.”

 

Mariella Allard reported that this possible change had been discussed at the meet managers meeting.  The meet managers liked the concept but questioned the 75% figure.  Matt Craven suggested that instead of a percentage, a number of teams be specified, and he suggested two teams.  This was appealing to the committee because it was simple and easy to understand.  However, if three large teams (including the host team) are involved, the three teams could take up the whole meet and there would be no space for other teams.  With a 75% figure, at least 1,000 spots in a 4,000 swim meet would be available.  Bob Gauvin said that he thought this process would discourage invitationals and would make teams feels more confident about running successful meets while still allowing the smaller teams opportunities to be accepted at meets.  The committee agreed that it should be stressed that this policy is optional and also agreed that teams that are planning to take advantage of this policy should put it in their invitations.  The committee confirmed that all lotteries would be run by the office.  The committee agreed to resubmit this proposal to the board.

 

5. Photographers on Deck:  The April 3 report read:  “Priscilla Davis has received an opinion from a USA Swimming attorney.  It is currently under review.”

 

Priscilla Davis reported that the only photographers allowed on deck during a meet would be professional photographers contracted by the host team or press photographers approved by the host team.  No other photographers would be allowed on deck during the meet.

 

GENERAL MEET DISCUSSIOIN AND REVIEW:

 

1. Meet Entry Fees:  The committee recommends that maximum relay fees be increased to four times the fee for an individual event in the meet.  That would be up to $14 for a timed final meet and up to $20 for a trials and finals meet.  This fee could be charged for relay time trials also.  The committee recommends that fees for distance events (400 and longer) be increased to $5 for all meets.

 

2. Admission Fees:  The committee recommends no change to the current $1 limit for admission to New England Meets.

 

3. Program Fees:  The committee recommends no change to the current policy which does not limit the charge for programs but requires that the charge be stated in the meet information.

 

OPEN CHAMPIONSHIP:

 

1. Swim fastest to slowest—500 free, 400 IM:  The committee recommends that at all New England championship meets all distance events 400 and longer be swum fastest to slowest, alternating men and women.  At all other meets this would be optional but would have to be stated in the meet invitation.  The committee recognized that at USA Swimming championships this is not the policy but at our championship meets we have more swimmers in these events.    

 

2. Policy to allow distance events to have 2 swimmers per lane:  The committee does not favor two swimmers per lane especially since not all timing systems could accommodate this and swimmers do not get splits.  However, it recommends that our championship meet invitations reflect that this might occur in events 800 and longer if necessary because of the size of the event(s).  If swimmers have to swim 2 to a lane, the committee recommends that girls swim with girls and boys with boys and that all heats, except those that swim at night, be combined, not just the slower ones.  In addition, the committee recommends that the time standards be looked at for these events.

 

3. A-B Flight Meet:   Matt Craven suggested that we consider A and B flights for our championship meets.  A certain number of heats (A) would swim in the main part of the meet, and the rest of the heats (B) would swim after the main meet was finished.  This would allow more swimmers in the meet and permit shorter sessions.  However, some swimmers would be in both flights, swimmers with non-conforming times would be at a disadvantage, and the list of those who swim in finals would not be finalized until after the B flight.  The committee does not recommend this proposal but does recommend that the Senior Committee discuss it.

 

This entire section was TABLED for discussion at a future meeting.

 

RELAYS AT CHAMPIONSHIPS:

 

1. Number of relays allowed per team:  The committee recommends unlimited relays at regionals and 12 and under championships, up to 4 relays per team at 13 and over championships, open championships, and seniors.   The number of relays, however, may be limited by the meet director due to the size of the meet.  This should be stated in the meet invitation.

 

2. Number of relays that may score:  The committee recommends that only 2 relays be allowed to score at championship and end of season meets.  (There is no scoring at regionals.)

 

3. Composition of relays:  The committee recommends that there be no limitation on who swims in relays except for the regional meets.  At the regional meets, since each team can bring so many swimmers, there will be no relay only swimmers.  For all meets that allow relay only swimmers, all relay only swimmers must be listed on the meet entry.  Otherwise, they will not be allowed to swim.

 

4. 13—14 Relays at the Open:  The committee recommends that separate 13 and 14 relays be eliminated at the Open since teams can compose 13 and 14 relays as part of their unlimited relays.

 

DISTANCE MEETS:

 

Maximum number of events allowed.  The committee recommends that the USA Swimming rules (5 events per day for timed finals, 3 events per day for trials and finals) apply to distance meets, also.  Teams that are running meets may not limit the number of distance events that a swimmer enters to less than 5 events in a timed final event.

 

TIMERS:

 

Relay and Distance Events Provide Owen Timers:  The committee recommends that teams running meets be allowed to require teams to time their own swimmers in all events 400 and longer and all relay events.  This would apply to end of season, championship and other calendar meets but must be listed in the meet invitation.

 

AGE GROUP COMMITTEE REPORT:

 

Laura Matuszak presented a list of  guidelines and recommendations for Age Group (and possibly other) Championships (attached):   The committee accepted the guidelines but recognizes that some facilities and some circumstances might not allow all the guidelines to be followed.  Priscilla Davis does not approve of relay starts during warm-up sessions because of safety concerns. 

 

OTHER:

 

Should teams be guaranteed a profit at Championship Meets?  The committee had a lengthy discussion.  The committee agreed that teams running championship meets should not lose money.  This is why New England provides a subsidy for these meets.  The question was how to judge which teams would “deserve” more money to provide a “profit” for the team.  Should New England deny money to a team that makes a “profit” because the team sells program ads and the parents donate food to the hospitality room, but give extra money to guarantee a “profit” to a team that does not do this?   The committee also discussed the increasing cost of facilities.  Should New England encourage teams to obtain the better facilities despite the high cost of these facilities or do we need to “draw the line” and say the cost is not worth it.  The committee decided to seek further direction from the board.

TABLED for discussion at a future meeting.

 

The meeting was adjourned at 9 pm.      Submitted by Mary Riddell